Splitter, anyone?

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Re: Splitter, anyone?

Post by Navy Lifer » Thu Mar 01, 2018 9:28 pm

Gene, the shape of the PPV bumper, since it's rather "stubby", with little overhang, would not lead to a splitter size that offers any real benefit under the (I assume) SCCA rules for the class you're trying to stay in (I'm assuming)...at least from my perspective.

"Illegal" only means without being bumped into a class you don't want to go...correct? I can't imagine it's not allowed, period. SCCA is an organization that exists to frustrate anyone showing up with a vehicle outside of their classification "norms"....4-door sedans don't fit the Sports Car definition, so the classification process has always been an exercise in futility from my experience.

The front end stubbiness is exactly one of the things that the splitter shown is taking advantage of, to extend the front view visually, and at the same time offer some aero benefit.

As it's currently configured, it would not be possible to slide the splitter back, but you've got the right idea, and could design your own which COULD be adjusted as you describe.

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Re: Splitter, anyone?

Post by CrashTestDummy » Fri Mar 02, 2018 8:16 pm

For SCCA autocross competition, ANY splitter that sticks out ahead of the forward-most portion of the bumper (cover) and is not factory-equipment, is illegal in ALL classes except the modified classes. We run in C Prepared, and it's even not allowed there. We don't run the car often, usually when it's too wet or cold for the dedicated car, and our local class is rather lightly-subscribed to, but it would suck to drive the car, beat some really bad driver, and have him/her protest. Yes, it's a weanie protest, but it would stick.

I understand your build intentions, and this is an odd/special request, but didn't know how far down the road the design had gone, and was just making this observation. If it can't be slid back, I guess I could trim the leading edge to work, depending on how this part is configured/attached to the car. Thank you.
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Re: Splitter, anyone? - finally outdoor sunshine photos!

Post by Navy Lifer » Thu Mar 08, 2018 12:20 am

Test fit and final configuration mounting hardware development is still a work in progress--between owner's (novadeuce/Scott) work schedule and the fact that we live an hour apart, the timing for working on the details of this project are turtle S L O W.......as the saying goes, good things come to those who wait....

The splitter as shown here is really too expensive to expect enough potential buyers to step up, so our plan is to figure out a way to produce this design using a different material...maybe not quite as sexy-looking or durable, in the end, but more reasonable as to cost, making it easier to decide to buy one. Anyone wanting this type--with the cloth weave surface (to be clear, it's NOT carbon fiber), you'll be able to buy one, or perhaps a group order could be made, which will help keep cost down some.

I'm not the greatest photographer, and I realize that a "whole car" shot would be helpful in visualizing the full impact of adding the splitter. We'll get some posted, eventually.
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Re: Splitter, anyone?

Post by rtormet » Thu Mar 08, 2018 4:11 am

yep that looks awesome.

once you get it down to an affordable price i want one for sure!

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Re: Splitter, anyone?

Post by CrashTestDummy » Thu Mar 08, 2018 4:19 am

Bill,

That looks really awesome!! I wonder If a pattern, and hardware would be a cost-effective route? Then, the big, expensive (I’m a$$uming the panel is the expensive bit here) panel of the owner’s choice could be bought locally, or ordered separately from vendors who pack and ship on a regular basis. Then, the owner could order it in CF, fiberglass, duraroc, aluminum sandwich, or whatever the budget would allow. Just a thought.

But that really looks cool.
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1992 B4C 1LE Camaro
2010 Tahoe PPV (her car)
1995 DGGM Impala SS
1996 BBB Impala SS (11-second DD)
1985 Firebird - 310 LS1 C Prepared autocross car.
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Re: Splitter, anyone?

Post by Navy Lifer » Thu Mar 08, 2018 5:33 am

We decided today that one thing we need to do is put the splitter on another color car, so next photos will be on my Alto Gray car, which will have more contrast, and make the splitter seem more prominent vs the black on black shown so far.

The material under consideration to make the more affordable version is HDPE--High Density Polyethylene. Stay tuned for updates!

The other objective is to finalize mounting, with a goal of making the part require no front external supports as some may have seen on actual race splitters or the poseur/ricer cars seen on the streets and at car events. If we do our job right, if someone installs this splitter on the V and wants to add external bracing, that's going to be "on them"....

Thanks for the positive feedback--we'll get our act together on this, hopefully soon/eventually!

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Re: Splitter, anyone?

Post by Pursuit » Thu Mar 08, 2018 5:39 am

Let us know what the costs are for both. And, need somebody to test it at speed? 8-)

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Re: Splitter, anyone?

Post by Navy Lifer » Thu Mar 08, 2018 12:13 pm

Maurice, at the speed you travel, the original design/material is what you'll want. :D

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Re: Splitter, anyone?

Post by Pursuit » Thu Mar 08, 2018 4:31 pm

I figured as much. let me know. BTW, can I plow snow with that, also? ;)

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Re: Splitter, anyone?

Post by Navy Lifer » Fri Mar 09, 2018 5:18 am

If (or when) a run of the cloth/resin splitters is produced, it is a recommendation, for the best protection of the part, to spray the splitter with an adhesion promoter, and then to apply clear coat (if the desire is to "show off" the cloth pattern), or to then paint the part a color of choice and clear over that--clear, in either case, can be shiny, flat, or matte finish, as considered appropriate.

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