Caprice 9C1/SS compatability

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Re: Caprice 9C1/SS compatability

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Thinking about the new SS's with the electronic button I thought one way you could covert it a bit easier is to switch to a universal parking brake motor used by many handicapped vans (since it's hard for people in wheel chairs to engage a manual one) . Would have to compare the cost of that system to the actual system used by GM. But I bet it might mount up easier being a universal type system.

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Re: Caprice 9C1/SS compatability

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I seen this on eBay maybe you can offer them for just the center console. Yea I've been doing some research on doing this because I hate the dash shifter. I want to first see whats all involved in adding the electric park brake because I would want to try that first before trying to reroute the cable.
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Re: Caprice 9C1/SS compatability

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The electric park might be easy I bet the wire harness is there all you have to do is add all the components to make it work and plug it right in and you might have to activate it through the can bus system. Its cheaper for manufactures to use the same wire harness instead of spending more money by modifying or making another harness, thats how my 08 Dodge Magnum SXT was when I swapped a 6.1 SRT8 motor, trans, and EVIC. There was a few plugs behind the dash I just plugged in and thats it, BUT this was a Dodge so I don't know how Chevy is
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Re: Caprice 9C1/SS compatability

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I've had my entire 2011 9c3 center console removed from the car there is no extra harness under that portion for any electric park brake nor anything unplugged behind the radio area that i found.. perhaps somewhere else under dash but maybe it was added in later on when they did the redo of the dash for 13?
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electric park brake is part of VF/WN platform update (2014 > newer), which has different electrical architecture, so making it work on VE/WM (pre-2014) may be a challenge, even if the mechanical side can be achieved (actuator mounting, cables to brake levers, etc).
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Was I correct in my mentioning of the 2013 up car being different? From what I have seen, it looks like the interior we see in the 2014 PPV was actually a 2013 MY update for the middle east and probably Australian car.
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Re: Caprice 9C1/SS compatability

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here's my take on this, and I'll ask CP (if he sees it) to comment to validate or critique/correct what I'm going to say:

In the US, "model year" is the driver of what a vehicle's specs/configuration consist of. Regulations dictate "meets model year 201x" --emissions, safety, etc., it's the holy grail.

When the VF platform was released for production, it was during the 2013 calendar year. In Holden's world, there seems to be less focus on "model year" and more on "this is the new model--for Commodore (and Caprice), that's the transition from VE, to VE Series II, to VF, and now to VF Series II, which will become the 2016 Chevy SS and, for Caprice, the transition was WM up to and including 2013 Chevy Caprice PPV for the US. When VF went online at Holden's Elizabeth plant, the WN (LWB platform--including 2014 PPV) also went active.

The thing I cannot answer is (assuming there is still a Middle East Caprice), the platform updates for that car and the Holden version probably started their builds ahead of the SS and PPV (US version) since the US "model year" approach was a bit behind the release date for these new/replacement models--which would explain why it might appear that "2013" M.E. Chevy Caprice (WN in reality) was the same as a 2014 Caprice PPV, which probably did not hit the US until some time in CY 2014.

The Holden model change approach, at least for VE>VF and WM>WN (ie. Zeta), tends to be based on a VIN "break" rather than simply model year changes--not so common in GMNA, but used by Holden and many other manufacturers to indicate what configuration is on a specific vehicle, regardless of what MY specs it complies with for US sale.
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Re: Caprice 9C1/SS compatability

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The shifter on the early models is why I fought so hard to get my 9C3. I'm also considering a 6-speed swap further down the road so the 9C3 seemed like the best candidate. The 9C1 shifter looks like such a horrible afterthought and a waste of space.
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That's a possibility but after my experience with electric steering, I'm not so enthusiastic about making another crucial safety feature of the car electric. I think Im going to go for the console shell and see if I can fit it with the OE 9C1 parking brake cable in place. If I cant make it work, I can always sell the console later.
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Re: Caprice 9C1/SS compatability

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4$akn69 wrote:I seen this on eBay maybe you can offer them for just the center console. Yea I've been doing some research on doing this because I hate the dash shifter. I want to first see whats all involved in adding the electric park brake because I would want to try that first before trying to reroute the cable.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/1818331064 ... ps&lpid=82" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Thanks for the link, those seats, door panels and console sold for $1200. Wow. I can get a new console for less than that I am confident.
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1975 Pontiac Grand Am L77 - 14.82 @ 92.89
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2014 Chevrolet Caprice 9C1 L77 - 13.60 @ 105.87
2019 Chevrolet Express 3500 L96
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