GM's 20 regret making and discontinuing

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GM's 20 regret making and discontinuing

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https://www.thethings.com/sports-cars-g ... ontinuing/

Of interest is the SS in the regret discontinuing, which was actually the closure of Holden that caused its demise. I definitely would have loved to buy one of those.
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Interesting article. Don't agree with some of the reasons, and the 3rd Gen F-body cars were quite successful, and the Camaro was never rolled off the assembly line with a diesel of any kind, let alone a 4-cyl.
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"10 sports cars GM probably regrets making"

The article is just the author's opinions. It doesn't sound like any of the information actually came from GM.

I love how they mentioned a 1978 Chevrolet Chevelle SS and show a 64. lol. I don't think there ever was a 78 Chevelle. Pretty weak article.
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Still interesting to read through it. I do agree with the GN as being the #1 regret discontinuing. Fantastic car and ahead of its time when the 80's were just lame all around in the automotive world.

Funny how other critics have put the SS as a failure because of low sales and high price. The GTO made the regret discontinuing list which is puzzling as I think the G8 was more popular. It probably would have continued if not for the killing of Pontiac, which a few models listed were affected by. Who knows, maybe we would have have a G8 PPV :lol:
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And for the Chevelles, the last year was 1977 and no SS. There was a Laguna S3. So yeah, poor research. He used the wrong pic from Wikipedia and also didn't bother reading it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevrolet ... 80%931977)

I was a teenager in the 80's and the 3rd gen Camaro's were as breathtaking as asthma. And it did have a 4 cylinder Iron Duke 151ci available and top of the line 5.0L wheezing 165hp in the Z28. Styling was good, power was anemic.
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Yeah, the 3rd Gen F-body cars took some getting used to. They looked nice, but so different from the 2nd Gen cars that I didn't like it at first. All cars were pretty anemic back then, and the top-of-the-line 305 wasn't a performance engine by any means. I remember a friend who worked for a local speed parts house mention that one of his sales guys had a new 82 Camaro, and within a year he had already put 2 diffs in the thing. He wasn't even beating up on the thing, just driving it to accounts. I think the 3rd diff was a 9-bolt, which stopped the failures. It was so much better that my friend ended up buying that car.

The DID handle, though, and that's what I appreciate about them. So much so, that we currently own two; a 85 Firebird that we autocross in C Prepared, and a 92 B4C 1LE Camaro. I'd love to have a 2nd Gen back in the collection, but decent examples are getting stupid-expensive.

+1 on the Buick G-body. Another friend had a T-Type, and that car was nearly impossible to beat street racing. It was a real hoot to drive. Cruise to the drag strip in air conditioned comfort, jamming on the stereo, cut some low-11 second passes, then cruise back home, all while getting high-20's MPG! Great car!! I think he still has it, but not sure.
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CrashTestDummy wrote: Mon Jan 13, 2020 2:08 pm Interesting article. Don't agree with some of the reasons, and the 3rd Gen F-body cars were quite successful, and the Camaro was never rolled off the assembly line with a diesel of any kind, let alone a 4-cyl.
the early 3rd gens , DID come with a 4 cyl , the good ole iron duke , as was a 4cyl diesel , i remember them sitting on the dealer lots and laughing at them , 82 i was a freshman in highschool , and getting my DL was just around the corner
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I just checked again and there was no diesel Camaro except this custom built one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3bBiqIWffY

You must be thinking of the Chevette.
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82 was not a year i was doing drugs or drinking , so its very hard to confuse a shitvette with a camaro , my neighbor had a shitvette gas motor , that dieseled every time he shut it off , it ran on for 5-10 minutes , and it did that for years

there was a diesel , odd tidbit going through the GM parts catalog , i found info on a 80-81 camaro with the 350 diesel , and the 3rd gen doesnt come up , but ive seen them on the lot and in the junk yard in so cal
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Makes no sense except maybe they used the same parts lists for engines for both the Camaro and trucks? Back then, they used microfiche so that is possible. I had a '78 Type LT and '78 Z28 and I know there were no diesels in that gen Camaro. And a general Google search for a diesel Camaro only yields swapped ones, including a '69.

If you have docs that show an available Camaro diesel, please post. Just curious.
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